Its time for my annual I told you so, I chime in once a year i'll chime in hoping to right the ship.
I said it since Gavin Reddit that PB needs to be a dues paying organization with the dues going into a general fund for anything from legal defense to lawyers to pursue legal action. There needed to be a charity wing for good publicity donating to foodbanks and homeless shelters. Active dues paying keeps people whom are legit, and whenever some one dressed in PB gear was conveniently photographed causing trouble you could quickly disavow as a plant or a fraud.
PBoys are run by retards who just want to fight, an "OwN tHe LiBs" and have zero thought about direction or future of the organization, nor the protection of their own members. And they were laughing when they got flagged by Canada as a terrorist organization, but too stupid to realize 5 Eyes intel sharing means the FBI can now spy on them by way of Canada just as easy as if they'd been flagged here in the US. Likely every identified member is having their email snooped right now, the name is radioactive as fuck.
Why not make them a religious group? No taxes. And legal protections. Like Scientologists, but cool.
I mean... not a bad idea, all donations are tax write-offs, and a fucking hilarious troll to boot. Dig up some old Celtic gods, for a pretense of legitimate religion.
From a quick search "list of norse gods"
Tyr (Týr, Tiw, Tig, Ziu, Teu, Thingsus, Tiwaz, Ty, Tyw, Zio, Ziv, Ziw) God Æsir war, justice in battle, victory and heroic glory
lots more to pick from.
lmfao annual dues and a charity wing. it was meant to be a drinking club regardless of what it has become today, if you wanna pay dues and feed bums start something else. not to mention, how hard do you think it would it be for plants to just pay dues and now legitimize themselves as actual “Proud Boys”? Not hard.
thanks for the annual told ya so though, shit brains.
Simpleminded thinking, well that's why you're the waterboy,
Gavin stated many times he hoped PB would become a lodge, you know what lodges have? dues paying members, hell they used to have their own meeting halls. Yes, it was a drinking club a half decade ago with 30 people, when you decided to get political and fight in the streets it became something far fucking different and painted massive bullseye on the members, which is why you have 3 still in prison over a fucking fist fight which should've been mutual combat. And now you have chapters not just nationally but world fucking wide, which is why Five Eyes can feel free to rummage through, emails, credit card purchases, and phone data.
Yes you can plant anyone in anything, dues paying or not but you're going to have a name associated with it, along with vetting, which is far better than some random jackass throwing on Fred Perry and taking photos waving nazi memorabilia, which has happened, and no one knew who the fuck it was and couldn't confirm or deny. Dues paying also ties the ID to a credit card, if a plant wants to out himself waving nazi flags while leaving his real name with credit card on file the he's about as bright as you are.
So yes, with your well thought out response I can only assume you're a fucking PB Grand Poobah or maybe a Fed that doesn't want anything disrupting your bumper crop of idiots you get to reap for promotions.
your idea sucks and defeats the purpose of the PBs. Again, it was a drinking club and your shit idea only drags it further from that than it already it is.
go pay your dues at the country club bro and we’ll see you next year when you show up with another brilliant plan.
glowie, no doubt. But yeah, whatever the fuck they're doing now, has them all being investigated so "Its just a drinking club" isn't working. Reform or die there are no other options, except for the Glowie, looking hype up more 20 year old retards then bust them in an FBI sting operation.
Y'all know thats coming right? they're just waiting for that one retard to say the wrong thing online, bust him on domestic terrorism charges and then label the entire organization terrorists, you'll all end up like Joe Biggs, losing your bank accounts, your jobs, put on no fly lists. The government is actively looking to ruin your lives. The organization has to reform or die.
We all know the origin story of trying to get perma-virgin "rat" laid.
It's not about that anymore.
When mockingbird has made you public enemy #1 you need to evolve and fight smart.
While i don't agree with the OP's title (twas probably clickbait to get people to read the rest), everything else he said makes a lot of sense.
They darken the sky with arrows, we fight in the shade.
Fuck em...
yep 100% clickbait title. But really man I've been begging the PBs to evolve or disband for a long time now. The days of the left and the right living and let living are over with, the left want to ruin your life, and the livelihood of your family. It is total war.
BLM led to riots with dozens of deaths, and 1-2 billion in damage. Some boomers most of which were invited in by the police walked around capitol hill with some minor vandalism - one is being portrayed a 9/11 event of terrorism and the other was mostly peaceful and Vice President of the US hosted links so people could donate to post bail for the rioters.
And you're spot on with the Mockingbird reference. Hell they don't even hide it anymore the news openly brag about their hired intel/IC pundits and commentators.
I see what you did there (title) and i approve.
Back in the day when i was still in highschool we created "the BT", it was officially called "the BBQ team" and we posed in pictures with BBQ's and we did charitable things.
Donated a bench to the local park with funds we raised at a "free" car wash, did a food drive, did tons of stuff
As cover
In reality the "BT" stood for "bong team" and we just needed an excuse to hang out and smoke weed without raising suspicions.
Your idea of doing charitable things, even if it is just fake as fuck for PR... accomplishes two things. it creates cover from haters, but i think more importantly it does actually bolster fellowship/brotherhood in the group. coming together to accomplish goals, even if it's silly, creates unity.
i also agree with you about the dues... it keeps the riffraff out. it doesn't have to be a lot of money but it should be enough to "prove" you're serious about contributing to the group and give you some sort of legal defense fund.
i'd take it a step further, develop a business that can be ran under a different name that can siphon funds to the group without having cancel cancer come after them.
there are plenty of ways to do this... just need some creative thinking and some funding from within.
i mean honestly a group of people can sit around a bonfire with a fat joint and some good beer and come up with a dozen business ideas in an hour or two.
taking it from a targeted group of hangout guys to a semi-shielded and well funded org is the right move.
as someone suggested in the other spin-off topic... creating a "religion" or adopting an old forgotten one isn't a bad idea either.
with a church as cover all your business plans can be disguised as "community outreach funding" or whatever.
it's honestly not that hard to do and should have been done when arrests were made after the NY fight with pantifa.
gaaaayyyyyyy
EFFFF BEEE EYEEEE investigation, unpersoning, fired from your job, loss of your bank account. Thats what Biggs is facing, and they're just waiting for someone to entrap with a proudboy connection so they can label the entire group domestic terrorists and anyone affiliated with the org will get hit with the above and caught on a no fly list.
Good fucking luck, y'all were warned, but you thought it was gaaayyyyyy.
gaaaaayyyyyyyy thing to respond with
Yep conservatives do not know how to fight. They rant its not fair, and they're right the deck is stacked against them, they lost the culture. the news/media, hollywood, and now the government. And most of the damage was done under Trump's reign, who did nothing to curb the blacklists that were created, hell which led to the creation of Gavin's web site.They just sat around listening to Q and "Trusting the plan" or 4D chess or some other nonsense. And now face oblivion. But the PBs can't escape blame, they had years to adapt to the change in climate, and failed to do so.