Enrique was about as apologetic as he could be from what i could tell.
Gavs got good reason to be wishy washy with anything he says at this point.
Also, there is a media angle to this that is advantageous
If he was an informant the whole time, you could say the whole of the PBs was essentially sanctioned by the FBI.
Kindve like how Gavin says Canada accidentally created real neo-nazis in their attempt to infiltrate those organizations back in the 80s
Gavin should have never steppped down. His plan of lowering the profile of PB not only didn’t work, but it blew up in his face when he was replaced by a fed. Gavin seemed to legitimately see it as a proud group of western chauvinists that hung out drinking and feeling safe in numbers to wear MAGA hats and be who they are in public. He is 100% right that the rallies and political action stuff killed it. I am not a member though, so I probably shouldn’t be speaking on it, I am just a huge fan of Gavin and the way he described the PB. Hopefully the club will bounce back after Enrique steps down and people move on from this political mania that has taken over the country since 2015.
i found myself in the midst of PB Atwater chapter on election night 2016. They were just having the best fucking time at that bar I was at, and laughing at Hillary supporters who were completely shitting their pants; shit was way better back then than this rally shit.
Drinking club. Mens Club. Fun jokes. Real talk. MAGA dudes. thats it.
Yeah, I feel like PB was better when it was advertised as a group for MAGA guys to hang out, drink beers, and be proud to be themselves instead of being some sort of political movement. It is a shame really.
He is still a snitch and rat. I love the PB, but can never get behind a snitch. I 100% support turning in human traffickers, but not in this context, not to save your own ass.
If Enrique investigated and turned in these guys on his own, I support that, but doing it to save your own ass is dishonorable IMO.
I havent been able to watch the interview but I how does anybody get to know human traffickers if you arent in some shit yourself? Idk. I will watch it and then provide a more informed comment, but I know Cubans both here and the US and none are acquainted with human traffickers and havent been arrested for being involved in any illegal activity. I think Gav should run a thorough background check before a new head for the PB is appointed/elected.
Not a big fan but I agree that he has been treated like shit. I think it was a mistake to not be more forthcoming when accepting the role of chairman. The media lies about us already so I feel that not being forthcoming early on jeopardized the club. The man is also a brother so I'm going to have his back for now, but it might be time for a change.
My opinions are my own and in no way reflect my chapter in any way.
Yeah, I haven't been on here for a bit cause I've been moving employment positions, but after I listened to that interview I wanted to come on here and post "NOTHING ENRIQUE SAYS MAKES ANY SENSE!! COME ON GAVIN!"
I guess I'm alone in that. Everything he said was too complicated to be true. I know Gavin mentioned he was going on an interview tour, I hope he does. This would be the only way I think Gav could ever trust him again.
I'm surprised at the amount of people who take the typical criminals position on informing. "He's a rat!" "Fuck snitching!"
How about fuck criminals?
Enrique was about as apologetic as he could be from what i could tell. Gavs got good reason to be wishy washy with anything he says at this point. Also, there is a media angle to this that is advantageous
If he was an informant the whole time, you could say the whole of the PBs was essentially sanctioned by the FBI.
Kindve like how Gavin says Canada accidentally created real neo-nazis in their attempt to infiltrate those organizations back in the 80s
Gavin should have never steppped down. His plan of lowering the profile of PB not only didn’t work, but it blew up in his face when he was replaced by a fed. Gavin seemed to legitimately see it as a proud group of western chauvinists that hung out drinking and feeling safe in numbers to wear MAGA hats and be who they are in public. He is 100% right that the rallies and political action stuff killed it. I am not a member though, so I probably shouldn’t be speaking on it, I am just a huge fan of Gavin and the way he described the PB. Hopefully the club will bounce back after Enrique steps down and people move on from this political mania that has taken over the country since 2015.
i found myself in the midst of PB Atwater chapter on election night 2016. They were just having the best fucking time at that bar I was at, and laughing at Hillary supporters who were completely shitting their pants; shit was way better back then than this rally shit.
Drinking club. Mens Club. Fun jokes. Real talk. MAGA dudes. thats it.
Yeah, I feel like PB was better when it was advertised as a group for MAGA guys to hang out, drink beers, and be proud to be themselves instead of being some sort of political movement. It is a shame really.
He is still a snitch and rat. I love the PB, but can never get behind a snitch. I 100% support turning in human traffickers, but not in this context, not to save your own ass.
If Enrique investigated and turned in these guys on his own, I support that, but doing it to save your own ass is dishonorable IMO.
I havent been able to watch the interview but I how does anybody get to know human traffickers if you arent in some shit yourself? Idk. I will watch it and then provide a more informed comment, but I know Cubans both here and the US and none are acquainted with human traffickers and havent been arrested for being involved in any illegal activity. I think Gav should run a thorough background check before a new head for the PB is appointed/elected.
Not a big fan but I agree that he has been treated like shit. I think it was a mistake to not be more forthcoming when accepting the role of chairman. The media lies about us already so I feel that not being forthcoming early on jeopardized the club. The man is also a brother so I'm going to have his back for now, but it might be time for a change.
My opinions are my own and in no way reflect my chapter in any way.
Yeah, I haven't been on here for a bit cause I've been moving employment positions, but after I listened to that interview I wanted to come on here and post "NOTHING ENRIQUE SAYS MAKES ANY SENSE!! COME ON GAVIN!"
I guess I'm alone in that. Everything he said was too complicated to be true. I know Gavin mentioned he was going on an interview tour, I hope he does. This would be the only way I think Gav could ever trust him again.