what do we do? all I could think of while drunk last night was to share my email with the few people I have communicated with on the donald and here. what else can we do? i hate and don't use facebook. surprising a good amount of maga organizing happens on there

whenever my leftist family and I get into heated discussions I like to say "I support the president with the same foreign policy as Carter!" They just shake their heads and leave usually after I say this. :D

I'm interested in this PCR, I don't know what it is. All I know is that when I was stressed I called a family member who is a doctor and he said that quote "no one will test a 2 year old" because of something about their immune system not being developed.

Then, my mom calls the testing place and they tell her they test as young as 3 months. Clown.World. :/

Thanks so much for asking. I thought about posting a follow up because there is a good lesson.

I and my (separated) husband and stepson all got tested as asked. I stood my ground about not getting my toddler tested.

I stood my ground and did not bend, even though my siblings badgered my mom that my toddler should be tested. In addition, my not bending, threatened my living situation during the holidays! (I have not mentioned that I live with my senior mom because it's just a whole other bag of dicks. Even though she depends on me, it makes it harder for me to just tell everyone to eff off)

Here is the important lesson that was confirmed to me, I am sure everyone on this board knows as well: WHEN YOU BEND IT IS NEVER ENOUGH.

I, my husband, stepson, and toddler getting a test became not enough and it became my toddler should be wearing a mask in public, meaning wearing one in daycare as well. Then it became we all should be wearing one while we are celebrating together.

So, my siblings decided not to come, even though I and my husband jumped through their hoops. I am proud of myself for not bending because it will never be enough. But hayzeus, I am so sad.

I actually am glad they made the decision to take care of their own health instead of demanding things of others, I just wish this was the first path taken.

My mother said they did not bring up me not wanting to comply as to why they did not come, but I am sure that my not complying will be brought up as the reason Christmas was ruined this year in the future. I'm trying my best.

Thank you, I appreciate it, I too talked with a doctor family member recently and I could tell he was trying to “not do harm.” He kept emphasizing different populations have different risks and everyone has to determine the risk they are comfortable with. But he actually gave me a number of 10% change of spreading it if you have no symptoms and told me clothe masks are absolute insanity. I was thinking about that 10% number and was wondering if he just made it up to explain lower risk lol. Thanks!

I would so appreciate it. I am completely isolated here and really want to make contact with other like-minded people. i'll even send you my email, im not on FB. THANK YOU!

Do you know that Memphis lady that called in!??!!? Please tell her to contact me! I'm in memphis too!

Just bought this fir my son ☺️

I really enjoyed that episode ?

good comments on here, yeah i thought of that, like what would they do if i were positive?!!? well my one sibling is thinking of not coming simply because they only give tests if you have symptoms where we are apparently, so i guess that tells you what im dealing with :/

Thank you, really thank you. I sincerely appreciate it. I studied art, while my siblings studied more responsible fields. Have a nice christmas as well. My father lives in Las Vegas, I dont speak to him, but when I did I visted him a few times and also the red mountains around there. Really beautiful. :)

I agree, I am actually a big therapy/mindfullness/what would pema chodron do freak (totally not gavin approved) but I try to state the facts of a situation when I am having a hard time.

The facts are: I am being asked to do something to participate with family. I am not asking anyone to do anything to participate. On this alone they are wrong, however I think they would phrase it as I am asking them to participate in a risky situation. :/

yes, oh and also, I didnt reply above, but do you think people who are asking for a test would believe just my word?!?!

If they had any trust, there would not be a request for a test.

Yeah, when I read this I thought to myself if you have siblings. It's funny though, my siblings are better at lying than me, they have successfully done it. I honestly have never. Maybe I'm messed up mentally, but I cannot lie if I KNOW its a lie, only if I am able to convince myself that it is true can I do it, I guess that doesn't make sense. Oh well! :D

**If they had any trust, and would believe my word, there would not be a request for a test! :D

If you have any links on the asymptomatic spread, I would appreciate it. Of course, when I google it, I get "ASYMPTOMATIC PEOPLE SPREAD COVID ALL THE TIME!!!!"

I'm sure that's all they are seeing as well :/

Thanks, I agree, the issue is I am outnumbered. I am the only "brave" one, everyone else in my family thinks i'm irresponsible and reckless. :/

They're are some other family dynamics at play. I am the least financially stable of my siblings. I make good money now, but for a long time it was touch and go, and I don't own property and they do. So this just adds to them thinking i am wrong.